Diskuse:Helena Veverková-Winandová

@Anatol Svahilec: Sorry to write in English, but I don’t speak Czech. Are you sure about the name Helena Veverková-Widmanová and the spouse H. Wirsinga?

• Two of the sources in the article mention Helena Veverková-Vinandová.
• Her death record from Hamburg states her name as Helene Josefina Maria Winand, geborene Wewerka, daughter of Josef Georg Wewerka"" and his wife Maria Trmal from Prague, married with Jean Carl Martin Winand. According to this record, she was born in Kolín (not in Prague) and 27 years 1 month at birth, so I suspect that 1856 is her correct year of birth.

Maybe you could have a look into this and then ping me or leave me a message on my discussion page? Thank you! --Emu (diskuse) 27. 1. 2021, 13:15 (CET)

@Emu: Hi there! No problem with the language - coooool, mate, thanks for a collaboration, let's sort this out! :)

My main sources were a Czech book O těch, kteří odešli (Of those who passed) from 1940 about some famous acrtesses, two-pages profile text, there I get the date of birth and also a name of her spouse. I checked that again and it seems to be my mistake of misconstruing the surname of Jean Carl Martin Winand (in the book H. Winand).

• H. Wisingra - Hermannová-Wisingerová wast't the spouse, but the name of her music teacher
• date and place of birth was taken also from there, I wasn't able to fnd any other, so I think the death record would be right.

Don't you please have the link of her death record? I'd like to use it as a source. I'll search also in digitalised Kolín birth records, try to find something and correct all of that ASAP.

Thanks a LOT! to ya! It was pretty tough to find something reliable about her, seems to be jolly fine edit.

Cheers.

--Anatol Svahilec (diskuse) 27. 1. 2021, 14:17 (CET)

@Anatol Svahilec: Yeah, H. in her husbands name stands for Hans which is the (Southern) German nickname for Johann(es), Jean in French.

The death record is on Ancestry (I have a subscription). If you need a screenshot, just send me an email!

PS: I’m from Austria, but I stumbled upon this article during Wikidata duplicate checks. --Emu (diskuse) 27. 1. 2021, 21:07 (CET)

@Emu, Anatol Svahilec: Here (in the first row) is her birth record - 9 February 1856 in Kolín. --Harold (diskuse) 27. 1. 2021, 13:41 (CET)

@Harold: Thank you! I added this information to de:Helene Wewerka. I might also create an article on her spouse whose published birth year 1850 is also wrong (1848 would be correct) --Emu (diskuse) 27. 1. 2021, 13:58 (CET)

Well then! Thanks to ya @Harold! --Anatol Svahilec (diskuse) 27. 1. 2021, 14:19 (CET)